Earlier this month, here on The Cascadia Advocate, we published NPI’s first poll finding in the 2022 King County Prosecuting Attorney contest.
We found the two contenders for the job initially tied in the single digits, with Leesa Manion jumping out to a significant lead over her rival Jim Ferrell after not sure voters were asked a follow-up question that gave them information about each candidate sourced from the biographies on their campaign websites.
Asked about our finding during an appearance on Jason Rantz’s right wing talk show this week, Ferrell inexplicably went on the attack, falsely denouncing NPI’s research as “a push poll” and declaring himself the victim of unfair practices. Here’s a transcript of that exchange between him and Rantz:
JASON RANTZ: We’re talking with Jim Farrell. He’s the Federal Way Mayor. He’s also a candidate for King County Prosecuting Attorney. As we turn to that contest, we saw a recent poll by the Northwest Progressive Institute… not a great poll for either you or your opponent Leesa Manion, at least initially. No one knows who they’re going to vote for… Eighty-three percent were like, I don’t know.
JIM FERRELL: So why open?
JASON RANTZ: Right. I mean, so then they asked a follow up question where they basically said, who do you support, after you read this information about who they are?
And I want to read what Leesa Manion wrote, because, after this, she comes out ahead of you. She said — or this is how they prescribe her campaign, or describe it:
Leesa Manion is the current Chief of Staff of the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, where she has spearheaded projects aimed at protecting public safety, reducing racial disproportionality, strengthening victim services, and holding repeat perpetrators accountable.
By the way, this does not mean any of this is true. That last statement, we know, is not necessarily true.
She also oversees a workforce of nearly 600 employees and an annual budget of $80 million.
So once they ask that question, forty-one percent of those who answered said they would support her, which is about double what they said for you. What’s your response to that statement describing Leesa Manion?
JIM FERRELL: Well, this is a classic push poll, um, and it clearly doesn’t reflect, actually, her actual experience. And the background that they put for me, you know, really was not… was not sufficient… was not fully… it’s a classic, what they call push poll.
JASON RANTZ: Yeah.
There’s an old adage in politics that when you don’t like the result of something, whether it be an endorsement vote, or, in this case, polling, you complain about the process. That seems to be what’s going on here with Ferrell.
We are not aligned with Leesa Manion’s campaign; we don’t endorse candidates or engage in electioneering for or against any candidate at NPI. Our electoral polling is independent, and it has a track record of being correlated by actual election results. None of that matters, apparently, to Jim Ferrell.
Ferrell started out tied with Leesa Manion in our summer Prosecuting Attorney polling, but the “not sure” voters ended up liking Manion’s biographical highlights more than his in our follow-up question, prompting him to go cry foul on right wing talk radio, and falsely insinuate — with Rantz agreeing, naturally — that the goal of our research was to harm his candidacy.
A push poll, for those readers not familiar with the term, is a “political dirty trick” in which negative information about a person or organization is circulated in the guise of a survey question. The term has its own entry in Safire’s Political Dictionary, and we have cited that definition in presentations explaining why Tim Eyman’s “advisory votes” are really a form of propaganda. Here it is:
A push poll is a nefarious telemarketing technique designed to spread negative information about an opposition candidate.
During the South Carolina primary of 2000, a caller from the George W. Bush campaign asked 300 potential voters:
John McCain calls the campaign finance system corrupt, but as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, he raises money and travels on the private jets of corporations with legislative proposals before his committee. In view of this, are you much more likely to vote for him… or much more likely to vote against him?
A push poll is not a legitimate public opinion survey because its purpose is not to obtain an opinion but to influence it, which qualifies the device as a dirty trick.
— From the Dirty Tricks entry of Safire’s Political Dictionary, 2008 edition (Oxford University Press | New York, New York)
In that excerpt above, you can see what a “classic push poll” actually looks like. The question is obviously prejudicial and any answers to it would be irrelevant. You can’t find out what people really think when you ask a loaded question.
At NPI, we believe that bad inputs yield bad outputs. If the question is bad, the answers will be worthless. That’s why, in our research, we work extremely hard to ask neutral questions of representative samples. That is the key to credible, accurate, trustworthy public opinion research, especially electoral research.
For the King County Prosecuting Attorney contest, we knew from our years of polling experience that a high number of voters were likely to answer that they were not sure when asked about their preferences in this race.
Accordingly, we developed a follow-up question for not sure voters which offered more information. The information we provided was sourced directly from the About pages of Leesa Manion’s website and Jim Ferrell’s website.
The text of our follow-up question was:
Here’s a short description of the candidates, excerpted from the biographies on their campaign websites.
Leesa Manion is the current Chief of Staff of the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, where she has spearheaded projects aimed at protecting public safety, reducing racial disproportionality, strengthening victim services, and holding repeat perpetrators accountable. She also oversees a workforce of nearly 600 employees and an annual budget of $80 million.
Jim Ferrell is the current Mayor of Federal Way. He previously served as a Federal Way City Councilmember and as a King County Senior Deputy Prosecutor, defending victims of crime and working to keep our community safe. Ferrell began his career as a prosecutor for the City of Renton, Washington before moving into the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office in 1998.
If you had to choose, who would you vote for?
You can see from the screenshots below that the text was sourced from the candidates’ campaign websites. Our team selected passages to go in the poll, but we didn’t generate the descriptions. The wording came from the campaigns. It’s part of what they have put out into the public domain for voters to read.
Aside from some light editing, what respondents saw was a portion of how Manion and Ferrell describe themselves. Notice that no negative statements were provided to respondents about either candidate. The excerpts shown were about of equal length. The goal was to ask a neutral question.
When we published these results, I made it absolutely clear where the information shown to not sure respondents came from. I explained:
Since the voter’s pamphlet statement for the November general election has not been mailed to voters yet and isn’t accessible, we opted to source descriptions of the candidates from their own campaign websites, which are available to voters.
This approach allowed us to provide respondents with information about the candidates that is (aside from some light editing) identically worded to what they’d see if they went to each candidate’s website and read their About pages.
Jason Rantz failed to mention this crucially important fact to his listeners when reading from his question, and Ferrell also failed to mention it. Instead, both men dishonestly tried to insinuate during their exchange that NPI had generated the descriptions of the candidates. Both of them had obviously read the post and seen the question as well as my explanation of how the question was developed, yet they chose to withhold this information from KTTH’s listeners.
This is sadly what passes for rigorous discourse on right wing talk radio.
Notice also how, after Ferrell starts slamming our research, he stumbles, leaving a critique half-formed, just hanging out there. He serves up the false “push poll” label and then tells Rantz: “The background that they put for me, you know, really was not… was not sufficient… was not fully…” He abruptly reverts at that point to calling our research a “push poll,” rather than finishing his thought.
The background that they put for me was not sufficient… not fully…
Not fully what, Mayor Ferrell?
We took part of what you (or your consultant/campaign staff) wrote about your candidacy and showed it to voters. How we might have chosen to describe you does not matter because our objective was to describe you using your words, and we accomplished that goal with the help of your website.
What about your biographical excerpt was “not sufficient”? The excerpt mentions your current position in the community as a local elected official. It mentions your experience as a prosecutor. It mentions your work on behalf of crime victims. Those are the very motifs or thematic elements of your “Meet Jim” page. We read your biography from top to bottom in an effort to fairly excerpt from it.
If we had included criticism of your opponent Leesa Manion — which is what you immediately pivoted to talking about once you were done slamming our research with Rantz — well, now, that would have been prejudicial and inflammatory.
Readers, here’s what Ferrell said to Rantz right after his “push poll” comments, showing that his real gripe is that we didn’t do a push poll in his favor:
JIM FERRELL: Well, this is a classic push poll, um, and it clearly doesn’t reflect, actually, her actual experience. And the background that they put for me, you know, really was not… was not sufficient… was not fully… it’s a classic, what they call push poll.
JASON RANTZ: Yeah.
JIM FERRELL: Yeah, here’s the situation. Most people don’t know this. Many people do not know this, but they will when this campaign is over. My opponent has never tried a criminal case. She’s running to lead an office of trial attorneys. Hundreds of prosecutors. And she has never once in that time traveled or tried one criminal case. I, on the other hand, have tried hundreds of them and handled thousands of them because I was a prosecutor for nineteen years, a real prosecutor in a courtroom. I don’t think she’s ever tried any case.
Imagine if we had put the above criticism of Leesa Manion into our question! Without a corresponding criticism of Ferrell, it would definitely have been a loaded question — the very thing that we strive to avoid in each and every poll we do.
Ferrell’s recent behavior on the campaign trail leaves me wondering if he realizes what jurisdiction he’s in and what race he’s running.
This is King County, one of the most Democratic and one of the most progressive localities in the United States of America, where over two-thirds of voters consider themselves Democrats, according to our research. Where about three-fourths of voters backed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris two years ago.
Going on right wing talk radio and trashing the work of one of the few progressive organizations that does independent electoral research is a ridiculous, self-defeating move for a prosecuting attorney hopeful in one of the most progressive counties in the country. It’s an unforced error. King County is simply not a place where playing to the Republican base improves your likelihood of victory.
Former Councilmember Kathy Lambert found this out to her cost last year. Not recognizing that the district she has long represented was not Republican turf anymore, she and her campaign team launched vicious attack mailers against Democratic challenger Sarah Perry and her 2nd District colleague Girmay Zahilay, who is one of the best, most compassionate, most energetic, kindest people in local politics. The mailers had the effect of outing Lambert as a right wing Trump Republican to voters. It was as if Lambert had bought the tallest possible flagpole and run a massive Trump flag up the pole for everyone, everywhere to see.
Those mailers were the death knell for Lambert’s campaign. After she initially refused to apologize or acknowledge wrongdoing, the Seattle Times un-endorsed her and backed Perry. The Realtors dumped her. The Mariners apologized for giving her money and made a donation to Perry. Lambert was also forced to give up her committee leadership positions on the Council. She then handily lost the election to Perry and unceremoniously departed office a few weeks later.
Our polling shows that Ferrell and Manion start out this race tied, with over eight in ten voters not sure. Ferrell could have read the finding and said to his team, You know what? We have a real opportunity here. This race is wide open, and this research is evidence of that. It is unlikely that anyone else will publicly poll this race. We should reach out to NPI, get coffee, find out as much as we can.
But instead, Ferrell went on The Jason Rantz Show and indulged in Trumpian rhetoric with a man who distributes right wing propaganda for a living… a whole week after the Top Two election results demonstrated that there is no red tsunami washing through Washington, as Republicans have been giddily expecting.
I don’t own a working crystal ball, so I can’t tell you how the 2022 King County Prosecuting Attorney contest will turn out. This I do know: Most voters in King County are looking for ethical, effective, progressive representation, not irresponsible candidates who yuk it up with the likes of Jason Rantz on KTTH.
Friday, August 12th, 2022
Jim Ferrell falsely labels NPI’s Prosecuting Attorney contest research a “push poll”
Earlier this month, here on The Cascadia Advocate, we published NPI’s first poll finding in the 2022 King County Prosecuting Attorney contest.
We found the two contenders for the job initially tied in the single digits, with Leesa Manion jumping out to a significant lead over her rival Jim Ferrell after not sure voters were asked a follow-up question that gave them information about each candidate sourced from the biographies on their campaign websites.
Asked about our finding during an appearance on Jason Rantz’s right wing talk show this week, Ferrell inexplicably went on the attack, falsely denouncing NPI’s research as “a push poll” and declaring himself the victim of unfair practices. Here’s a transcript of that exchange between him and Rantz:
There’s an old adage in politics that when you don’t like the result of something, whether it be an endorsement vote, or, in this case, polling, you complain about the process. That seems to be what’s going on here with Ferrell.
We are not aligned with Leesa Manion’s campaign; we don’t endorse candidates or engage in electioneering for or against any candidate at NPI. Our electoral polling is independent, and it has a track record of being correlated by actual election results. None of that matters, apparently, to Jim Ferrell.
Ferrell started out tied with Leesa Manion in our summer Prosecuting Attorney polling, but the “not sure” voters ended up liking Manion’s biographical highlights more than his in our follow-up question, prompting him to go cry foul on right wing talk radio, and falsely insinuate — with Rantz agreeing, naturally — that the goal of our research was to harm his candidacy.
A push poll, for those readers not familiar with the term, is a “political dirty trick” in which negative information about a person or organization is circulated in the guise of a survey question. The term has its own entry in Safire’s Political Dictionary, and we have cited that definition in presentations explaining why Tim Eyman’s “advisory votes” are really a form of propaganda. Here it is:
In that excerpt above, you can see what a “classic push poll” actually looks like. The question is obviously prejudicial and any answers to it would be irrelevant. You can’t find out what people really think when you ask a loaded question.
At NPI, we believe that bad inputs yield bad outputs. If the question is bad, the answers will be worthless. That’s why, in our research, we work extremely hard to ask neutral questions of representative samples. That is the key to credible, accurate, trustworthy public opinion research, especially electoral research.
For the King County Prosecuting Attorney contest, we knew from our years of polling experience that a high number of voters were likely to answer that they were not sure when asked about their preferences in this race.
Accordingly, we developed a follow-up question for not sure voters which offered more information. The information we provided was sourced directly from the About pages of Leesa Manion’s website and Jim Ferrell’s website.
The text of our follow-up question was:
You can see from the screenshots below that the text was sourced from the candidates’ campaign websites. Our team selected passages to go in the poll, but we didn’t generate the descriptions. The wording came from the campaigns. It’s part of what they have put out into the public domain for voters to read.
Aside from some light editing, what respondents saw was a portion of how Manion and Ferrell describe themselves. Notice that no negative statements were provided to respondents about either candidate. The excerpts shown were about of equal length. The goal was to ask a neutral question.
When we published these results, I made it absolutely clear where the information shown to not sure respondents came from. I explained:
Jason Rantz failed to mention this crucially important fact to his listeners when reading from his question, and Ferrell also failed to mention it. Instead, both men dishonestly tried to insinuate during their exchange that NPI had generated the descriptions of the candidates. Both of them had obviously read the post and seen the question as well as my explanation of how the question was developed, yet they chose to withhold this information from KTTH’s listeners.
This is sadly what passes for rigorous discourse on right wing talk radio.
Notice also how, after Ferrell starts slamming our research, he stumbles, leaving a critique half-formed, just hanging out there. He serves up the false “push poll” label and then tells Rantz: “The background that they put for me, you know, really was not… was not sufficient… was not fully…” He abruptly reverts at that point to calling our research a “push poll,” rather than finishing his thought.
The background that they put for me was not sufficient… not fully…
Not fully what, Mayor Ferrell?
We took part of what you (or your consultant/campaign staff) wrote about your candidacy and showed it to voters. How we might have chosen to describe you does not matter because our objective was to describe you using your words, and we accomplished that goal with the help of your website.
What about your biographical excerpt was “not sufficient”? The excerpt mentions your current position in the community as a local elected official. It mentions your experience as a prosecutor. It mentions your work on behalf of crime victims. Those are the very motifs or thematic elements of your “Meet Jim” page. We read your biography from top to bottom in an effort to fairly excerpt from it.
If we had included criticism of your opponent Leesa Manion — which is what you immediately pivoted to talking about once you were done slamming our research with Rantz — well, now, that would have been prejudicial and inflammatory.
Readers, here’s what Ferrell said to Rantz right after his “push poll” comments, showing that his real gripe is that we didn’t do a push poll in his favor:
Imagine if we had put the above criticism of Leesa Manion into our question! Without a corresponding criticism of Ferrell, it would definitely have been a loaded question — the very thing that we strive to avoid in each and every poll we do.
Ferrell’s recent behavior on the campaign trail leaves me wondering if he realizes what jurisdiction he’s in and what race he’s running.
This is King County, one of the most Democratic and one of the most progressive localities in the United States of America, where over two-thirds of voters consider themselves Democrats, according to our research. Where about three-fourths of voters backed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris two years ago.
Going on right wing talk radio and trashing the work of one of the few progressive organizations that does independent electoral research is a ridiculous, self-defeating move for a prosecuting attorney hopeful in one of the most progressive counties in the country. It’s an unforced error. King County is simply not a place where playing to the Republican base improves your likelihood of victory.
Former Councilmember Kathy Lambert found this out to her cost last year. Not recognizing that the district she has long represented was not Republican turf anymore, she and her campaign team launched vicious attack mailers against Democratic challenger Sarah Perry and her 2nd District colleague Girmay Zahilay, who is one of the best, most compassionate, most energetic, kindest people in local politics. The mailers had the effect of outing Lambert as a right wing Trump Republican to voters. It was as if Lambert had bought the tallest possible flagpole and run a massive Trump flag up the pole for everyone, everywhere to see.
Those mailers were the death knell for Lambert’s campaign. After she initially refused to apologize or acknowledge wrongdoing, the Seattle Times un-endorsed her and backed Perry. The Realtors dumped her. The Mariners apologized for giving her money and made a donation to Perry. Lambert was also forced to give up her committee leadership positions on the Council. She then handily lost the election to Perry and unceremoniously departed office a few weeks later.
Our polling shows that Ferrell and Manion start out this race tied, with over eight in ten voters not sure. Ferrell could have read the finding and said to his team, You know what? We have a real opportunity here. This race is wide open, and this research is evidence of that. It is unlikely that anyone else will publicly poll this race. We should reach out to NPI, get coffee, find out as much as we can.
But instead, Ferrell went on The Jason Rantz Show and indulged in Trumpian rhetoric with a man who distributes right wing propaganda for a living… a whole week after the Top Two election results demonstrated that there is no red tsunami washing through Washington, as Republicans have been giddily expecting.
I don’t own a working crystal ball, so I can’t tell you how the 2022 King County Prosecuting Attorney contest will turn out. This I do know: Most voters in King County are looking for ethical, effective, progressive representation, not irresponsible candidates who yuk it up with the likes of Jason Rantz on KTTH.
# Written by Andrew Villeneuve :: 4:53 PM
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