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Monday, September 26th, 2016

Liveblogging the first presidential debate of 2016 from the great Pacific Northwest

Good evening, and wel­come to NPI’s live cov­er­age of the first pres­i­den­tial debate of 2016. NPI staff will be watch­ing and shar­ing impres­sions of the debate between Demo­c­ra­t­ic nom­i­nee Hillary Clin­ton and Repub­li­can nom­i­nee Don­ald Trump as it pro­gress­es. The debate, spon­sored by the Com­mis­sion on Pres­i­den­tial Debates, is being broad­cast on all major net­works as well as Face­book and Twitter.

We rec­om­mend C‑SPAN if you’re livestream­ing the debate as opposed to watch­ing it on a cable or broad­cast tele­vi­sion network.

Hof­s­tra Uni­ver­si­ty in New York is host­ing the debate, which will be mod­er­at­ed by NBC’s Lester Holt. The for­mat is as follows:

The debate will be divid­ed into six time seg­ments of approx­i­mate­ly 15 min­utes each on major top­ics to be select­ed by the mod­er­a­tor and announced at least one week before the debate. The mod­er­a­tor will open each seg­ment with a ques­tion, after which each can­di­date will have two min­utes to respond. Can­di­dates will then have an oppor­tu­ni­ty to respond to each oth­er. The mod­er­a­tor will use the bal­ance of the time in the seg­ment for a deep­er dis­cus­sion of the topic.

Our live cov­er­age begins below.

UPDATE, 6:02 PM (Andrew): The debate is about to begin. Lester Holt will be wel­com­ing the can­di­dates onstage shortly.

UPDATE, 6:15 PM (Ren­nie): Trump responds by talk­ing about trade and jobs leav­ing the coun­try. He also blames the tax sys­tem for the lack of jobs.

UPDATE, 6:17 PM (Ren­nie): Trump speaks about charg­ing an import tar­iff on prod­ucts made out­side the US

UPDATE, 6:21 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton doesn’t seem too unnerved by Trump’s inter­rup­tions thus far.

UPDATE, 6:22 PM (Ren­nie): Trump brings up the old Repub­li­can talk­ing point about a failed solar pan­el com­pa­ny, in response to Hillary’s claim that Trump is a cli­mate change denier.

UPDATE, 6:22 PM (Andrew): Trump keeps harp­ing on NAFTA and then goes on the attack over the Trans-Pacif­ic Part­ner­ship. Clin­ton gets in a zinger, final­ly: “Don­ald, I know you live in your own reality.”

UPDATE, 6:25 PM (Ren­nie): Trump is claim­ing tax breaks will cre­ate jobs, a tired Repub­li­can claim.

UPDATE, 6:25 PM (Andrew): So far Clin­ton is get­ting the bet­ter of Trump in this debate, keep­ing her cool while Trump sounds increas­ing­ly unhinged and angry. He’s been rais­ing his voice a lot.

UPDATE, 6:26 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton points debate view­ers to her web­site, hillaryclinton.com.

UPDATE, 6:26 PM (Andrew): “Please, fact check­ers, get to work.” — Hillary Clinton

UPDATE, 6:27 PM (Ren­nie): Hillary claims her plan will decrease the nation­al debt, while Trump’ plan will increase the debt.

UPDATE, 6:29 PM (Andrew): “Let’s start the clock again, Lester,” Clin­ton says.

UPDATE, 6:29 PM (Ren­nie): Trump doesn’t seem to be han­dling the debate well. He seems like he is on the edge of loos­ing control.

UPDATE, 6:30 PM (Andrew): Trump just can’t keep his mouth shut. He HAS to talk.

UPDATE, 6:30 PM (Ren­nie): Clin­ton seems much more con­fi­dent in the debate.

UPDATE, 6:30 PM (Andrew): “I don’t think top down works in Amer­i­ca,” Clin­ton adds.

UPDATE, 6:30 PM (Andrew): “Broad based, inclu­sive growth is what we need in America.”

UPDATE, 6:31 PM (Andrew): “Believe me,” Trump intones. Drink!

UPDATE, 6:32 PM (Ren­nie): Trump reverts to call­ing Hillary an inef­fec­tu­al politician.

UPDATE, 6:32 PM (Andrew): Trump gets in a shot at The Fed. Lester Holt asks Trump why he hasn’t asked his tax returns.

UPDATE, 6:32 PM (Andrew): Trump again claims he isn’t releas­ing his tax returns because he’s being audit­ed. That’s a pho­ny explanation.

UPDATE, 6:33 PM (Ren­nie): Trump claims he hasn’t released his tax returns because he is under a “rou­tine audit” .

UPDATE, 6:33 PM (Andrew): Holt fact checks Trump and debunks his pho­ny explanation.

UPDATE, 6:34 PM (Andrew): “I’m not even com­plain­ing,” Trump says, as he vocal­ly complains.

UPDATE, 6:35 PM (Ren­nie): Trump says that he has been audit­ed for 15 years by the IRS and tries to change the sub­ject to Hillary’s emails.

UPDATE, 6:35 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton high­lights inves­tiga­tive report­ing into Trump’s finances as she takes over the floor.

UPDATE, 6:36 PM (Andrew): Trump sighs.

UPDATE, 6:36 PM (Andrew): The Don­ald doesn’t look hap­py or com­fort­able at all. Per­haps that’s because Clin­ton is tak­ing him apart.

UPDATE, 6:36 PM (Andrew): “There’s some­thing he’s hid­ing,” Clin­ton says,

UPDATE, 6:37 PM (Ren­nie): Hillary claims Trump prob­a­bly doesn’t pay Fed­er­al tax­es. Trump said “that means I am smart” .

UPDATE, 6:38 PM (Andrew): “I’m extreme­ly under­lever­aged,” Trump claims.

UPDATE, 6:38 PM (Ren­nie): We need Bernie up there say­ing “I don’t care about Hillary’s damn emails”

UPDATE, 6:39 PM (Andrew): “We’ve become a Third World coun­try,” Trump base­less­ly declares.

UPDATE, 6:40 PM (Andrew): “I’ve met a lot of the peo­ple who were stiffed by you and your busi­ness­es,” says Clinton.

UPDATE, 6:42 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton is on a roll here, absolute­ly evis­cer­at­ing Trump.

UPDATE, 6:42 PM (Andrew): “It’s all words, it’s all sound bites,” Trump snaps. Pot, meet kettle.

UPDATE, 6:43 PM (Andrew): “I take advan­tage of the laws of the nation,’” Trump boasts, defend­ing his uneth­i­cal behavior.

UPDATE, 6:43 PM (Ren­nie): Hillary brings up that Trump’s busi­ness stiff many work­ers by not pay­ing for work completed.

UPDATE, 6:44 PM (Andrew): “If I don’t get there one way, I’ll get there anoth­er,” Trump brags, talk­ing about his newest hotel, on Penn­syl­va­nia Avenue in D.C.

UPDATE, 6:45 PM (Andrew): Switch­ing to a new top­ic… America’s Direc­tion. First ques­tion is about race relations.

UPDATE, 6:45 PM (Andrew): Clinton’s in her ele­ment. “Every­one should be respect­ed by the law, and every­one should respect the law.”

UPDATE, 6:47 PM (Ren­nie): Top­ic changes to racism issues in our coun­try.  Hillary speaks of restor­ing trust in the police and pro­vid­ing bet­ter train­ing for police. Final­izes by say­ing that guns need to be kept from peo­ple who should not have them.

UPDATE, 6:47 PM (Andrew): Trump’s open­ing com­ments on this top­ic are sound bites. “Sec­re­tary Clin­ton doesn’t want to use a cou­ple of words: Law and order,” he snaps.

UPDATE, 6:49 PM (Andrew): Trump brings up stop and frisk and begins emphat­i­cal­ly tout­ing it. It’s like he’s try­ing to lose as many black vot­ers as possible.

UPDATE, 6:49 PM (Ren­nie): Trump responds say­ing that we are lack­ing law and order and needs to be brought back. He con­tin­ues by blam­ing ille­gal immi­grants for crime.

UPDATE, 6:49 PM (Andrew): Holt fol­lows up on stop and frisk, not­ing it was ruled uncon­sti­tu­tion­al. Trump’s response: “You’re wrong.”

UPDATE, 6:50 PM (Ren­nie): Trump argues for stop and frisk.

UPDATE, 6:51 PM (Ren­nie): Trump indi­rect­ly blames Oba­ma for the crime in Chicago.

UPDATE, 6:51 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton assails Trump for paint­ing such a bleak pic­ture of black com­mu­ni­ties. “There’s a lot we should be proud of,” Clin­ton says.

UPDATE, 6:53 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton calls out the sys­temic racism in our crim­i­nal jus­tice sys­tem. “We can’t just say law and order.”

UPDATE, 6:53 PM (Andrew): “I’m glad we’re end­ing pri­vate pris­ons in the fed­er­al sys­tem,” Clin­ton says, adding she wants them gone at the state lev­el too.

UPDATE, 6:54 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton expert­ly fields a ques­tion about implic­it bias in policing.

UPDATE, 6:54 PM (Ren­nie): Hillary points out racial inequal­i­ty in our jus­tice sys­tem. She applauds the end of pri­vate pris­ons in the Fed­er­al sys­tem and encour­ages the same for state lev­el jus­tice system.

UPDATE, 6:56 PM (Andrew): Trump is sound­ing more mut­ed now, per­haps real­iz­ing Clin­ton was get­ting the bet­ter of him.

UPDATE, 6:57 PM (Andrew): Don­ald Trump, of all peo­ple, is in no posi­tion to scold Hillary Clin­ton for her choice of words.

UPDATE, 6:57 PM (Ren­nie): Trump men­tions the 2nd ammend­ment and his sup­port from the NRA in talk­ing about his plan to reduce crime.

UPDATE, 6:59 PM (Andrew): “Demo­c­rat politi­cians” … nice slur, Donald…

UPDATE, 6:59 PM (Andrew): Lester Holt asks Trump about birtherism. Good.

UPDATE, 7:00 PM (Ren­nie): Trump claims that African com­mu­ni­ty is used and abused by the Demo­c­ra­t­ic party.

UPDATE, 7:02 PM (Andrew): Clinton’s burn of Trump was rather something.

UPDATE, 7:02 PM (Andrew): “I say noth­ing, I say noth­ing.” Wrong, Don­ald. All you do is say stuff. You don’t do any­thing else besides that and col­lect mon­ey from peo­ple for the use of your name.

UPDATE, 7:02 PM (Ren­nie): Trump claims that he “did a good job” at get­ting Oba­ma to pro­duce his birth certificate.

UPDATE, 7:04 PM (Andrew): Once again, Clin­ton takes Trump apart, show­ing that she knows her history.

UPDATE, 7:04 PM (Andrew): “The birther lie was a very hurt­ful one,” Clin­ton says.

UPDATE, 7:05 PM (Andrew): Wow. That was an incred­i­ble answer by Clinton.

UPDATE, 7:06 PM (Andrew): Trump is try­ing to turn the tables… and utter­ly failing.

UPDATE, 7:06 PM (Andrew): Trump is all too hap­py to take credit.

UPDATE, 7:09 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton says we need to stand strong against Russ­ian cyber­at­tacks, and express­es her increduli­ty that Trump would invite the Rus­sians to hack U.S. networks.

UPDATE, 7:10 PM (Ren­nie): Top­ic is cyber secu­ri­ty. Hillary says that Rus­sia is to blame for increased cyber attacks. Hillary accus­es Trump of invit­ing Putin to hack Americans.

UPDATE, 7:11 PM (Andrew): Trump false­ly asserts that under Pres­i­dent Oba­ma “we’ve lost con­trol over what we used to control.”

UPDATE, 7:13 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton appar­ent­ly doesn’t see the need to refute Trump’s last answer, pre­fer­ring instead to talk seri­ous­ly about what’s need­ed to defeat the Islam­ic State group.

UPDATE, 7:15 PM (Andrew): “We should have tak­en the oil,” Trump declares. What a con man.

UPDATE, 7:16 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton schools Trump on how the with­draw­al from Iraq actu­al­ly went down, also point­ing out that Trump sup­port­ed going into Iraq at the time of the invasion.

UPDATE, 7:17 PM (Andrew): “I have to respond,” Trump tells Lester Holt.

UPDATE, 7:19 PM (Andrew): This debate has remind­ed us that Don­ald Trump is total­ly, utter­ly unpre­pared and unqual­i­fied to be Pres­i­dent of the Unit­ed States.

UPDATE, 7:19 PM (Andrew): “I think we have to get NATO to go into the Mid­dle East with us,” Trump says.

UPDATE, 7:20 PM (Andrew): Trump is now debat­ing Lester Holt.

UPDATE, 7:21 PM (Andrew): Trump is now appeal­ing to jour­nal­ists to talk to Sean Han­ni­ty to back up Trump’s ver­sion of events con­cern­ing his posi­tion on Iraq.

UPDATE, 7:22 PM (Andrew): Don­ald Trump is bla­tant­ly, fla­grant­ly lying to hun­dreds of mil­lions of people.

UPDATE, 7:22 PM (Ren­nie): Trump is argu­ing emphat­i­cal­ly that he was not for the Iraq war.

UPDATE, 7:22 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton can’t believe what she’s hear­ing either. This is surreal.

UPDATE, 7:23 PM (Andrew): “I think my strongest asset is my tem­pera­ment,” Trump declares.

UPDATE, 7:23 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton hap­pi­ly takes over and begins school­ing Trump again. NATO his­to­ry lesson!

UPDATE, 7:24 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton begins lay­ing the con­text to explain the JCPOA with Iran.

UPDATE, 7:26 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton makes the point that we can’t trust Don­ald Trump with nuclear weapons, or nuclear pol­i­cy. We need nuclear nonproliferation.

UPDATE, 7:26 PM (Andrew): Trump just showed us how much that line of Hillary’s both­ers him (“A man who can be bait­ed with a tweet…”)

UPDATE, 7:27 PM (Andrew): Only Sith deal in absolutes, Don­ald. You keep say­ing that we nev­er win anymore/we keep los­ing. It’s false.

UPDATE, 7:29 PM (Andrew): Right wing lan­guage man Frank Luntz is ana­lyz­ing Trump in real time… and exco­ri­at­ing him.

UPDATE, 7:29 PM (Andrew): Trump bab­bling again.

UPDATE, 7:29 PM (Ren­nie): Sounds like Trump wants anoth­er nuclear weapons race with Rus­sia, yet claims we need to reduce nuclear weapons in the world.

UPDATE, 7:29 PM (Andrew): Trump is act­ing like he’s at one of his ral­lies, not a debate with Hillary Clinton.

UPDATE, 7:30 PM (Andrew): “Believe me…” Drink!

UPDATE, 7:30 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton reas­sures U.S. allies, includ­ing in East Asia, that as Pres­i­dent, she’ll hon­or the nation’s commitments.

UPDATE, 7:32 PM (Andrew): Peo­ple fol­low our pres­i­den­tial cam­paigns around the world, look­ing for clues as to how the next Pres­i­dent will gov­ern, Clin­ton points out.

UPDATE, 7:34 PM (Ren­nie): On for­eign rela­tions, Hillary seems to have a much bet­ter grasp of reality.

UPDATE, 7:34 PM (Andrew): Unbe­liev­able. Just unbe­liev­able. Don­ald Trump isn’t a man, he’s a sad excuse for a human being.

UPDATE, 7:35 PM (Andrew): Trump just got owned.

UPDATE, 7:35 PM (Andrew): Clinton’s smil­ing response on the sta­mi­na attack was incred­i­bly good.

UPDATE, 7:36 PM (Andrew): Clin­ton demol­ish­es Trump again. That may have been her best take­down yet.

UPDATE, 7:37 PM (Andrew): Trump com­plain­ing about “not nice”. Says the guy who speaks from the gutter.

UPDATE, 7:38 PM (Andrew): “I want to make Amer­i­ca great again.” Drink!

UPDATE, 7:40 PM (Ren­nie): Debates are over. Hillary clear­ly won this debate.

UPDATE, 8:13 PM (Ren­nie): Bryant stress­es men­tal health is the cause of gun vio­lence and blames Inslee for not doing enough for help­ing the men­tal­ly ill.

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